Primary Red (and excellent Cool Red option)
I use four reds in my regular palette - a warm, a cool, an earth and a crimson for convenience. You can see all these colours and many other reds in my website here.
In a limited palette what you need is a red that will make oranges mixed with yellow AND purples mixed with blue. It's rather hard to find but the best options I have come across are either Quinacridone Rose (PV19, also called Permanent Rose and available in most brands), Quinacridone Red (also made with PV19), Quinacridone Magenta (PR122 available in a range of brands) or some of the crimsons, though they tend to make slightly more neutralised purples and oranges than the quinacridones.
One of my quinacridones pages - Rose, Pink and Magenta in a range of brands, painted in a Moleskine Watercolour book. |
Rose Colours painted in a Stillman & Birn Beta book. |
Quinacridone Rose, Red, Pink, Fuchsia and Magenta pigment swatches. |
Notice how PR122 it makes lovely purples, strong crimsons and reds as well as gorgeous oranges. PV19 is very similar in use, the only difference being its strength making a crimson. If you have a crimson in your palette as well, as I do in an expanded palette, you can use either. Notice that the range of purples and oranges created are rather similar, so in a limited palette you only need the mid yellow and the Ultramarine, or you might go with a CYM palette and use a mid yellow, Quinacridone Magenta PR122 and Phthalo Blue GS.
And here is Carmine in a limited palette paint-out compared with Quinacridone Magenta.
Daniel Smith Hansa Yellow Light, Carmine and Ultramarine |
If you start with a mid yellow, Ultramarine Blue and a Quinacridone Rose/magenta/crimson, you can mix an amazing array of colours.
Add to these a warm red, a warm yellow and a cool blue and you expand the range tremendously, though I'd add Burnt Sienna first! That will be my next watercolour comparisons post...
Schmincke Pure Yellow, Purple Magenta and Ultramarine Finest
Next up - Burnt Sienna options
Watercolour Comparisons 1 - Ultramarine Blue here
Watercolour Comparisons 2 - mid yellows here
Watercolour Comparisons 3 - Primary Red here
Watercolour Comparisons 4 - Burnt Sienna here
Watercolour Comparisons 5 - Greens (Single Pigment, convenience mixes and special effect) here
Watercolour Comparisons 6 - Reds (Cool, mid and warm) here
Watercolour Comparisons 7 - Yellows (cool mid and warm) here
Watercolour Comparisons 8 - Blues here
|
Hello. One of my favorites is Holbein's Bright Violet ... a brilliant transparent magenta!
ReplyDeleteYou do not use a warm red, like cadmium or pyrrol? I ask because I can never find one I'm really happy with ...
Hi Laura. I have not tried Holbein's Bright Violet. I haven't tried many Holbein watercolours actaully as many have mixed pigments (I prefer single pigment colours) and many contain fugitive pigments. Bright Violet used to contain PV7, which will fade, along with PV15 (which is fine). I don't know if that is still the case.
ReplyDeleteI do use a warm red - I have posted the information about other reds here - http://janeblundellart.blogspot.com.au/2014/01/watercolour-comparisons-6-reds.html - though in my palette I tend to use Transparent Pyrrol Orange by Daniel Smith as my warm red. For teaching I use the lovely Pyrrol Scarlet by Daniel Smith. It is bright and clear and neutralises with Phthalo Blue GS to make wonderful red earth (Indian red) hues.
Happy painting!
Hi there I am trying to find any information about Windsor Newton permanent carmine, and or a great alternative? I just can't find anything specific to that color and no information regarding pigment information (I guess because it's organic?)
ReplyDeleteW&N Permanent Carmine contains the un-numbered Quinacridone pyrrolidone, which I understand to be rated II for lightfastness. I haven't tested it myself but have seen it being used in one of my student's palette. It is a very pink carmine so mixes purples nicely but I don't think it made black with phthalo green. Personally, I use Quinacridone rose and Pyrrol crimson to get the best mixing range but in a limited palette I'd suggest DS Carmine if you are looking for a single primary red which will actually give a crimson, as well as mixing well with other palette colours.
DeleteHi Jane! I've been combing through your blog for quite a few days now, but there's something that I need some advice on: as a crimson color, would you suggest carmine, anthraquinone red, or pyroll crimson? this is assuming I already have quincridone red (there seems to be no real difference with the rose variance) pv19 as a cool red (but no scarlet color bc I want to keep the palette smaller). Which do you think would mix the richest, darkest black w phthalo green?
ReplyDeleteI agree there is very little difference in hue between Quin rose and Quin red by DS, except that the Quin Red is perhaps a 'richer' paint. It will mix lovely purples but also great oranges so you can create a range of warm red hues.
DeleteCarmine has too much pink in it to mix rich blacks so would be too much like the Quin Red. It is another slightly more crimson single red alternative. You'd be better off with Anthraquinoid Red or Pyrrol Crimson for your purposes. They are very similar but from my research the Pyrrol Crimson is a slightly better (more lightfast) pigment. Either create a gorgeous rich black (Jane's black R/G!) when mixed with phthalo green BS. Interestingly, I prefer Anthraquinoid red as a paint - it is slightly thicker, though I use Pyrrol Crimson. Pyrrol Crimson cracks a bit as it dries so if you are putting it into a palette do it in small stages so you get less obvious shrinkage. You can see the mixed black here - http://www.janeblundellart.com/watercolour-mixing-charts.html - it's the third chart. With Pyrrol Crimson it will look the same.
Hi, I am a chemistry professor at Texas A&M university, who does research on molecules derived from quinacridone, I hope you don't mind if I use some of the nice colors you posted here to educate students about the beauty of this molecule. If you agree, I will cite your blog url in my powerpoint slides. Many thanks!
ReplyDeletethank you for contacting me. Yes that is fine. You can find more quinacridone watercolours on my website here http://www.janeblundellart.com/quinacridone-colours.html
DeleteHi,
ReplyDeleteI need Quinacridone Rose pigment in powder form, but it does not seem to be available on the market.
Can Quinacridone Rose be attained by mixing Quinacridone Red with a small amount of Quinacridone Magenta (PR 122)?
Schmincke make a powdered pigment called Carmine that is PV19 Quin Rose. That would be much easier!
DeleteHi,
ReplyDeleteI was wondering if these comparison charts are also in your book?
Thank you,
Jaime
Jane, I am going through all these colors in the effort to have a limited palette. Are these posts current in your choices now?
ReplyDeleteWhat do you think of Holbein Carmine. It isn't as dark and rich as I had hoped.
ReplyDeletethank you so much for sharing this and making this available :D i might not be your student in the traditional sense of buying classes but i have learnt and am still learning so much from you through your blog and website. thank you!! *sends a big virtual hug* :D
ReplyDelete